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Ref. 294 Newell's Old Boys Machine Printed Version

Post by Vikash » 21 Sep 2018, 18:28

Never seen one, so this price may be justified. Gorgeous team for anyone who may be interested:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Subbuteo-LW-te ... SwD-dbpLAM
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Post by lewisdl » 23 Sep 2018, 12:47

I'm no expert but that label would have me worried. New Wells Old Boys.? Would definitely do some research before parting with that sort of money.
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Post by lewisdl » 23 Sep 2018, 12:56

I'm no expert but that label would have me worried. New Wells Old Boys.? Would definitely do some research before parting with that sort of money.
However just now looked at Mingardo's website and the label does appear to be genuine
http://www.mingardo.it/images/Collezion ... -%20mp.JPG
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Post by Vikash » 23 Sep 2018, 14:01

Thank you for that bit of research, Dave.
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Post by Heavyweight021 » 01 Oct 2018, 18:55

Incredible money! I known little or nothing about LWs, so I can only assume this is one near the top of the rarity stakes?

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Post by HPL17 » 02 Oct 2018, 16:39

Heavyweight021 wrote:
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Incredible money! I known little or nothing about LWs, so I can only assume this is one near the top of the rarity stakes?
Yeah, that's a very rare reference. But there are many more references that hardly ever turn up for sale. 100 EUR is the maximum I could spend on a single team and it has to be a very rare one in mint condition for that kind of money.

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Post by JAMES » 03 Oct 2018, 06:39

To pick up a rare mint LW for around £100 is becoming very difficult. The price of the rare LW’s continues to increase and those teams that are in excellent condotion are selling for between £100 - £200 or even more in some cases.
Good buys and bargains can still be found but again becoming more and more difficult.

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Post by lewisdl » 03 Oct 2018, 10:40

My best Rare purchase was an Eintracht Frankfurt lw team. Bought from Harrods in the 90s for £4.15. Seen it on eBay for over £200
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Post by HPL17 » 09 Oct 2018, 09:32

JAMES wrote:
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To pick up a rare mint LW for around £100 is becoming very difficult. The price of the rare LW’s continues to increase and those teams that are in excellent condotion are selling for between £100 - £200 or even more in some cases.
Good buys and bargains can still be found but again becoming more and more difficult.
Just bought this team for 90 EUR + postage in excellent condition. Still big money for one team but not easy to find and will only increase in value.

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Post by JAMES » 09 Oct 2018, 12:36

Was this team on ebay? I see this too. Thought fair price in todays values. I bought my along with 788 Brescia about 10 years ago. And they were immaculate.
Good buy as this team is not very often seen for sale. Apart from the blemish on the front of the box, looks excellent condition too.

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JAMES wrote:
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Was this team on ebay? I see this too. Thought fair price in todays values. I bought my along with 788 Brescia about 10 years ago. And they were immaculate.
Good buy as this team is not very often seen for sale. Apart from the blemish on the front of the box, looks excellent condition too.
Yes got it from ebay. Sometimes you find a nice rare team with a price that is not completely over the top. 200 EUR + postage for a Kaiserslautern team for instance is just too much for me, although it's a rare team. Maybe when the collection is becoming more and more complete that one would spend more on the last missing references but that's not yet the case for me. I think I have about 300-350 original LW teams. When buying a 100 EUR team, I comfort myself with the thought that if you buy art or antiques that you also spend amounts of money which are not necessary reflective of the object but nevertheless it can prove to be a good investment.

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Post by lewisdl » 11 Oct 2018, 19:57

collecting as an investment is very difficult. I doubt my collection of over 400 llwteams is worth anything like what I have paid for the teams. Right now rare lw teams do seem to be getting more expensive but I think the peak may not be far away. We are all getting older and the amount of cash we have at our disposal may also have peaked. When we pass on who is going to be interested?
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Post by JAMES » 11 Oct 2018, 21:52

lewisdl wrote:
11 Oct 2018, 19:57
collecting as an investment is very difficult. I doubt my collection of over 400 llwteams is worth anything like what I have paid for the teams. Right now rare lw teams do seem to be getting more expensive but I think the peak may not be far away. We are all getting older and the amount of cash we have at our disposal may also have peaked. When we pass on who is going to be interested?
Very true comments. I think another 10-15 years, then the number of lightweight collectors will start to shrink. And the children of the current collectors will have little or no interest in subbuteo. Times have changed and kids of the last 10 years, have little or no knowledge of subbuteo, or even collecting anything. Its all technology now.

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Re: Ref. 294 Newell's Old Boys Machine Printed Version

Post by HPL17 » 12 Oct 2018, 07:17

lewisdl wrote:
11 Oct 2018, 19:57
collecting as an investment is very difficult. I doubt my collection of over 400 llwteams is worth anything like what I have paid for the teams. Right now rare lw teams do seem to be getting more expensive but I think the peak may not be far away. We are all getting older and the amount of cash we have at our disposal may also have peaked. When we pass on who is going to be interested?
I'm not so pessimistic. Everything comes back. People will get fed up with computers and look back to what their ancestors were passionate about. Things from the past that are no longer produced will always represent a significant value. Maybe the amount of buyers will diminish but also the amount of original subbuteo in perfect condition (especially the rare teams) diminishes each year.

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